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Offline nickpapageorgio81

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Chip Brown was just Taxus's propaganda mouthpiece
« on: July 30, 2010, 04:21:45 AM »
http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/story/13681330/pac10s-scott-blames-texas-for-his-plans-demise

This is a huge reason why NU will pay far less than 20 million.  Beebe should have never promised money he never had.

Unfortunate that 9 other schools are in a conference with Taxus that has Beebe as a commissioner.
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Re: Chip Brown was just Taxus's propaganda mouthpiece
« Reply #1 on: July 30, 2010, 03:03:03 PM »
Why doesn't NU petition for re-entry to Big12. Beebe might take you back since you folks can't stop thinking about Big12 :)

If being in a conference with Texas is so unfortunate, why do PAC-10 and Big10 and SEC, all want Texas?
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Re: Chip Brown was just Taxus's propaganda mouthpiece
« Reply #2 on: July 30, 2010, 04:23:10 PM »
Quote from: longhorn99 on July 30, 2010, 03:03:03 PM
Why doesn't NU petition for re-entry to Big12. Beebe might take you back since you folks can't stop thinking about Big12 :)

If being in a conference with Texas is so unfortunate, why do PAC-10 and Big10 and SEC, all want Texas?
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Re: Chip Brown was just Taxus's propaganda mouthpiece
« Reply #3 on: July 30, 2010, 04:27:43 PM »
His propaganda backfired.  Texas leaked the information because they were trying to hold the conference together according to Scott.  But because that information was leaked (not that NU, MU, and CU didn't already know) at that time, NU/Big10 and CU/Pac10 were cajoled in making their decisions quicker.  It wasn't the decision Texas wanted.

To save face, Texas needed to play along with the PAC10 and put the ball back in their own court.


Quote from: longhorn99 on July 30, 2010, 03:03:03 PM
Why doesn't NU petition for re-entry to Big12. Beebe might take you back since you folks can't stop thinking about Big12 :)

If being in a conference with Texas is so unfortunate, why do PAC-10 and Big10 and SEC, all want Texas?

Everything worked out for the best for everyone at this point in time.  I'm holding my excitement for 2011.  We are still in the Big 12 until December.  This "lame duck" can still take care of some last minute business.  I know of at least one team who isn't gonna get their pardon.

The PAC10, Big10, and SEC are mostly interested in the money Texas would bring to their conferences.  I know at least for the Big 10, that would have required Texas to forget their own agenda and become an equal with the other 11 teams.  Texas was never a good fit.  Because Texas is who they are, even the Big 10 in the end didn't want to be with Texas because they wouldn't compromise like the Big 12 has done for Texas.
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Re: Chip Brown was just Taxus's propaganda mouthpiece
« Reply #4 on: July 30, 2010, 04:31:02 PM »
If being in a conference with Texas is so unfortunate, why do PAC-10 and Big10 and SEC, all want Texas?  = longhorn99

$$$$$$$$$

However, I don't think the big10 wants you anymore.........

As for NU getting back in the big12.  It will never happen.  
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Re: Chip Brown was just Taxus's propaganda mouthpiece
« Reply #5 on: July 30, 2010, 04:37:16 PM »
Quote from: Cynical Puppet on July 30, 2010, 04:23:10 PM


I didn't post this to be a troll.  I posted this to let you know that CU may get off the hook and NU isn't going to have to pay most of the 20 million.  If anyone were to have to pay a penalty for damages, it would have to be Taxus.

If I wouldn't have posted it, somebody else would have.
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Re: Chip Brown was just Taxus's propaganda mouthpiece
« Reply #6 on: July 30, 2010, 04:46:30 PM »
Quote from: nickpapageorgio81 on July 30, 2010, 04:37:16 PM
NU isn't going to have to pay most of the 20 million.  If anyone were to have to pay a penalty for damages, it would have to be Taxus.


NU isn't going to pay anything.  The issue is will the Big 12 not pay NU for 2010.  NU could either settle for a lesser amount or go to the courts to declare all of it.  I am betting NU wants to be done with the Big 12 as of July 1, 2011 so I wouldn't be surprised to see NU settle.  However, NU could take it to court just based on principle.  Harvey Perlman was pretty stern in his statement that NU won't owe anything.
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Re: Chip Brown was just Taxus's propaganda mouthpiece
« Reply #7 on: July 30, 2010, 04:55:16 PM »
Quote from: Scarecrow on July 30, 2010, 04:46:30 PM
NU isn't going to pay anything.  The issue is will the Big 12 not pay NU for 2010.  NU could either settle for a lesser amount or go to the courts to declare all of it.  I am betting NU wants to be done with the Big 12 as of July 1, 2011 so I wouldn't be surprised to see NU settle.  However, NU could take it to court just based on principle.  Harvey Perlman was pretty stern in his statement that NU won't owe anything.
Like you said though. If they don't get the money from the conference, that just means they withheld it and NU still doesn't owe the Big 12 anything.

So yes, NU probably won't "owe" the Big 12 any money. But neither will they be getting paid.
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Quote from: bevobacker on June 14, 2010, 03:05:50 AM
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Re: Chip Brown was just Taxus's propaganda mouthpiece
« Reply #8 on: July 30, 2010, 05:11:16 PM »
So yes, NU probably won't "owe" the Big 12 any money. But neither will they be getting paid. - CP

We will see about that......



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Re: Chip Brown was just Taxus's propaganda mouthpiece
« Reply #9 on: July 30, 2010, 06:27:17 PM »
Actually we're BigXII until June 30th, 2011 hah
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Re: Chip Brown was just Taxus's propaganda mouthpiece
« Reply #10 on: July 31, 2010, 03:27:55 AM »
I was thinking about this earlier.  Isn't "leaked information" the very foundation that the business of journalism is built on?  Why is Dennis Dodd calling out Texas for leaking the very information that keeps him and his kind in business every day?

Sure, Texas strategically released information in a way that was beneficial to them, but isn't that what everybody does?  Didn't Nebraska's inside sources leak their intentions to join the Big 10 in the days leading up to their announcement?  I don't recall any denials out of the Pac 10 offices when Texas leaked such confidential information.

So my question is:  sure Texas "leaked" information, but is that wrong?
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Re: Chip Brown was just Taxus's propaganda mouthpiece
« Reply #11 on: July 31, 2010, 05:19:23 AM »
Archie, if it is used to manipulate others then yes it is wrong. 

You can tell Chip brown was used since he was dead on with the south schools and dead wrong about NU and the big10.
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Re: Chip Brown was just Taxus's propaganda mouthpiece
« Reply #12 on: July 31, 2010, 10:16:03 PM »
Quote from: nickpapageorgio81 on July 31, 2010, 05:19:23 AM
Archie, if it is used to manipulate others then yes it is wrong. 

You can tell Chip brown was used since he was dead on with the south schools and dead wrong about NU and the big10.
Or most of his sources are inside the Texas Athletic Department and he has very few, if any, in the north?

I mean, his whole site is about providing recruiting information about Texas. It's not hard to see where his sources are probably the most secure.
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Re: Chip Brown was just Taxus's propaganda mouthpiece
« Reply #13 on: August 02, 2010, 02:58:17 AM »
Quote from: nickpapageorgio81 on July 31, 2010, 05:19:23 AM
Archie, if it is used to manipulate others then yes it is wrong. 

Isn't that what everybody is doing though?  That's how the business works isn't it?
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Re: Chip Brown was just Taxus's propaganda mouthpiece
« Reply #14 on: August 02, 2010, 05:12:28 PM »
Quote from: nickpapageorgio81 on July 31, 2010, 05:19:23 AM
Archie, if it is used to manipulate others then yes it is wrong. 

You can tell Chip brown was used since he was dead on with the south schools and dead wrong about NU and the big10.

He didn't have the best Pac-10 information either.
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